Jungleman12 To Isildur1: "Pay Your Debt Scumbag."March 20, 2014 1:21 pm
The action can get pretty heated at Full Tilt’s high-stakes poker tables, which can then spill over into players hurling insults at one another, and revealing intricate details about the animosity which exists between the various players.
This time around the brouhaha took place between US poker pro Dan “Jungleman12” Cates, 24, and Swedish pro Viktor “Isildur1” Blom, 23, with an extract of their mid-game chat log reading as follows:
jungleman12: i cant describe how annoying it is to lose to you viktor
Isildur1: 2 pair
Isildur1: too easy
Isildur1: eat this
Isildur1: u suck
Isildur1: easy money
Isildur1: gus on the other hand
jungleman12: pay your debt scumbag
However, Cates’ last comment about Isildur1 owing him money, more than $100,000 according to Cates, was in all likelihood the catalyst for their mutual antagonism.
“Well, he owes other people money as well. He owed me money first. I stopped loaning him money or whatever..Yeah, it is a complicated situation,” explained Cates in an interview with cardplayer.com.
In also appears from their chat log that Dan “Jungleman12” Cates finds losing to the Swedish pro particularly painful, especially as he considers himself a far superior player than Isildur1. A cursory glance at the players’ highstakesdb results also tells a tale, with Cates up $1,236,974 this year and $8,642,990 overall, and Blom up $702,947 this year but down -$970,944 since joining the site five years ago.
Commenting on his erstwhile opponent, Cates was quick to point out that he was a better gambler than the Swede who, apparently, had been “dodging” him at no-limit for the past year and a half. In terms of skill, Cates also observed that Isildur1 was less studied than most players in the upper echelons of the game, explaining:
“I don’t dislike him personally. He’s mostly fine. I think he’s kind of a degenerate, that’s all..I mean, he is one of the only high-stakes players who doesn’t user Poker Tracker, study the game, or run simulations and things like that. He’s really an anomaly in that way. He knows what he’s doing apparently. He like copies off what he sees from other people.”
In spite of the strong emotions displayed by the two players, a few days on and Cates has said he thought the disagreement was likely aggravated by Isildur1 possibly being intoxicated at the time and that the two pros have since made up.
The whole of Cates’ interview about Blom can be read here.